8 Glasses of Water Invented By Plastic Water Bottle Companies With Vested Interests

[Jane Chitty]

April McCarthy
10 June 2012

There has never been any supporting evidence to back up the popular recommendation to drink 8 glasses of water per day. In an editorial for the June issue of Australian and New Zealand Journal of Public Health, Dr. Spero Tsindos from La Trobe University says most people get enough water from the foods and beverages -- including tea and coffee. Humans need about two litres of fluids per day -- not two litres of water specifically. He even takes his message a step further by suggesting the eight-glass-a-day rule is a myth invented by plastic water bottle companies who have made it fashionable to tote around what he says have become ubiquitous accessories.

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[Islander]

Years ago, I wrote an article for Natural News debunking that same 8 glasses of water...yet like the low-fat meme, it still gets perpetuated.

[Julieanne]

Jane, I also read the same thing some time ago, but can't remember where. The original idea was that we needed 2 litres of fluid from food and drink - soup, tea, coffee, fruit and veg. Not that drinking water isn't good.

[mellowsong]

I've read that often too.

[Reesacat]

The one good thing about this myth is sometimes we can get people to switch the soda for water..........

[Reesacat]

I just got a Berkey water filter and really like it. I was able to put it together by myself (thanks to coaching from Mellow) and it is easy for me to fill even with muscle weakness and shoulder issues. The water tastes so fresh!
I had had an ionizing water filter but it didn't remove all the fluoride and I got the fluoride filters for the Berkey.
Plus one advantage of the Berkey is it doesn't need electricity and can filter pond water if you need it. For a natural disaster such as an earthquake where water mains are ruptured for miles that can come in handy.
We are about due for a big one here in the Ohio valley.........

[bmc65]

I've seen this before on VV I think. Wasn't the 8 glass of water thing around way before bottled water came out. My timeline memory is a bit sketchy on this now, but it seems like I heard that before perrier and evian came out.
Agreed though about not needing to drink 2 liters.

[Aaltrude]

Not everyone needs to consume the same amount of fluids which can also come from fluids contained in foods. The amount you need is dependent on your individual body weight and metabolism. The urine colour test is probably the best way to judge if you are getting enough fluids.

[Reesacat]

Forgot — another thing I liked about this article was the research that caffeinated beverages do no dehydrate the body (been hearing that one ad nauseum::::::takes deep drink of very strong black organic Ceylon tea:::::::)

[StephenX]

I just got a Berkey water filter and really like it. I was able to put it together by myself (thanks to coaching from Mellow) and it is easy for me to fill even with muscle weakness and shoulder issues. The water tastes so fresh!
I had had an ionizing water filter but it didn't remove all the fluoride and I got the fluoride filters for the Berkey.
Plus one advantage of the Berkey is it doesn't need electricity and can filter pond water if you need it. For a natural disaster such as an earthquake where water mains are ruptured for miles that can come in handy.
We are about due for a big one here in the Ohio valley.........

Welcome to the wonderful world of safe water. A Berkey is a great investment. I hope people don't think to drink eight glasses of fluoridated tap water. They would quickly build up toxic levels of this poison

[bmc65]

Somehow my bladder did not get that message Reesacat, lol. I drink my coffee in the morning and pardon my frankness, pee like a racehorse all day. Then, if I don't drink at least 1/2 - to a liter of water sometime through out the rest of the day I will have severe cramps during the night. I can also get orthostaric, achy, and anxious. All of which I attribute to dehydration. If I drink more than one cup of green or black tea a day, I feel like my insides have been washed with astringent in addition to the above symptoms. I guess I'm really sensitive. In fact if my electrolytes weren't in the normal ranges I'd suspect I had diabetes insipidus because water won't stay with me long either. Hm, maybe it isn't the coffee and tea.
By the way, Congrats on getting a Berkey Reesacat. I'm glad some of you use them. I looked at them a while back and wasn't sure I wanted to commit. I seem to remember they are banned in CA, which gave me pause. The other reason is that I just don't know if I have the space for one.
Stephen, you've got to admit that 8 glasses of fluoridated water beats the equivalent amount of soft drink/juice made with fluoridated water + all the rest of the nastiness.

[Reesacat]

@bmc65: I'll post a picture on FB and take measurements....the reason they don't ship to CA is that CA requires testing for lead for the plastic spigot and Berkey refuses to pay for the stupid regulation according to Mellow who asked.

Mellow and I have mild diabetes insipidus symptoms due to damage to the HPA axis from CFIDS/ME. Most of the severe cases of CFIDS do have symptoms of mild DI. Our electrolytes tend to be normal (Mellow has to supplement potassium) and we both use a ton of sea salt and take bone broths. Did you ever have a head injury?

[Maurya]

Did you ever have a head injury?

As a person who has had head injuries in the past, I am interested in the relevance to the topic of electrolytes and hydration. I also get bodacious cramps in my feet and legs in the middle of the night. Part of my problem might be failure to drink enough water of any sort to keep up with my current perspiration; but this cramping thing started a couple of years ago, way before I moved to the tropics. Salt (sodium), potassium, and magnesium definitely help, but just plain volume of water seems to make the biggest difference in my ability to sleep through the night without an abrupt wake up from foot cramps.

Quality of water has become a big issue for us now, as bottled water is quite expensive, and treating our cistern water with anything other than large volumes of chlorine (ugh!) is expensive, as well, in the initial outlay. Competing methods advanced by different experts (salesmen) are being considered. I have this strong awareness that I am just at the very beginning of a very long intellectual journey, involving me shelling out large volumes of money. I just want to make sure that all this money will be invested wisely, rather than merely squandered on yet another water purification system that proves to be incompatible with something else down the line.

[Reesacat]

If you just need something for drinking water the Berkey takes out chlorine, fluoride, heavy metals and bacteria. You can use it in the field (missionaries and emergency medical people take it into field with cholera and typhoid outbreaks). The cost is cheaper than the ionizing and RO systems I have had in the past.
The people were great at this website:
https://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/

[Reesacat]

Here is a little bit on Diabetes Insipidus from the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-insipidus/ds00799/dsection=symptoms

Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic staff
The most common signs and symptoms of diabetes insipidus are:

Extreme thirst
Excretion of an excessive amount of diluted urine
Depending on the severity of the condition, urine output can range from 2.6 quarts (about 2.5 liters) a day if you have mild diabetes insipidus to 16 quarts (about 15 liters) a day if the condition is severe and if you're taking in a lot of fluids. In comparison, the average urine output for a healthy adult is in the range of 1.6 to 2.6 quarts (about 1.5 to 2.5 liters) a day.

Other signs may include needing to get up at night to urinate (nocturia) and bed-wetting.

Infants and young children who have diabetes insipidus may have the following signs and symptoms:

Unexplained fussiness or inconsolable crying
Unusually wet diapers
Fever, vomiting or diarrhea
Dry skin with cool extremities
Delayed growth
Weight loss
When to see a doctor
See your doctor immediately if you notice the two most common signs of diabetes insipidus: excessive urination and extreme thirst.

[Reesacat]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes-insipidus/DS00799/DSECTION=causes
Causes
By Mayo Clinic staff
Female urinary system
Male urinary system
Diabetes insipidus occurs when your body can't regulate how it handles fluids. Normally, your kidneys remove excess body fluids from your bloodstream. This fluid waste is temporarily stored in your bladder as urine, before you urinate. When your fluid regulation system is working properly, your kidneys make less urine when your body water is decreased, such as through perspiration, to conserve fluid.

The volume and composition of your body fluids remain balanced through a combination of oral intake and excretion by the kidneys. The rate of fluid intake is largely governed by thirst, although your habits can increase your intake far above the amount necessary. The rate of fluid excreted by your kidneys is greatly influenced by the production of anti-diuretic hormone (ADH), also called vasopressin.

Your body makes ADH in the hypothalamus and stores the hormone in your pituitary gland, a small gland located in the base of your brain. ADH is released into your bloodstream when necessary. ADH then concentrates the urine by triggering the kidney tubules to reabsorb water back into your bloodstream rather than excreting as much water into your urine.

The way in which your system is disrupted determines which form of diabetes insipidus you have:

Central diabetes insipidus. The cause of central diabetes insipidus is usually damage to the pituitary gland or hypothalamus, most commonly due to surgery, a tumor, an illness (such as meningitis), inflammation or a head injury. In some cases the cause is unknown. This damage disrupts the normal production, storage and release of ADH.

Nephrogenic diabetes insipidus. Nephrogenic diabetes insipidus occurs when there's a defect in the kidneys tubules — the structures in your kidneys that cause water to be excreted or reabsorbed. This defect makes your kidneys unable to properly respond to ADH. The defect may be due to an inherited (genetic) disorder or a chronic kidney disorder. Certain drugs, such as lithium and tetracycline, also can cause nephrogenic DI.

Gestational diabetes insipidus. Gestational diabetes insipidus occurs only during pregnancy and when an enzyme made by the placenta — the system of blood vessels and other tissue that allows the exchange of nutrients and waste products between a mother and her baby — destroys ADH in the mother.

Dipsogenic diabetes insipidus. In this form of DI, also known as primary polydipsia or psychogenic polydipsia, excessive fluid intake leads to suppression of ADH. Drinking too much liquid can be the result of abnormal thirst caused by damage to the thirst-regulating mechanism, situated in the hypothalamus. Diseases such as sarcoidosis can cause such damage. Dipsogenic DI also can be caused by mental illness.
In some cases of diabetes insipidus, doctors never determine a cause.

[mellowsong]

@BMC...1/2 to 1 liter isn't excessive water at all. Did you mean that? I have diabetes insipidus, bad enough for Rx treatment but, because I also have right sided heart failure, I can't use the vasopressin routinely because then I start retaining fluid. If you add up everything I drink daily it's probably close to 6 liters. I've put out 4 go 7 liters urine during 24 hour tests. My problem definitely is worse in the summer; when the weather is cool, it's not something I even think about. I cannot go anywhere without water with me though and if I don't take the vasopressin, 30 to 45 minutes tops between potty breaks. I take huge doses of potassium, magnesium and sea salt to maintain electrolytes reasonably normal and lots of bone broth for calcium and other minerals. It's not fun but I've been dealing with it about 3 years. Anyway, 8 glasses of water a day looks good, lol.

[mellowsong]

@Maurya: I've been using my Berkey for a year now and have no complaints. I love the fact it is gravity fed. I had a distiller before that...heated up the house, then had to add minerals etc etc and it took up as much room as the Berkey. I moved, and all I had to do was drain it and take it with me, no plumbing etc. I highly recommend them. As to the cramps, I had unrelenting cramps in calves, feet and toes for probably 20 years. Adding bone broth and all the mineral supplements I take eliminated them. I will get a cramp once in a while and know something is low so I'll drink a cup of broth w/ salt and take a magnesium and potassium supp. I know magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium are the major players in muscle cramps.

[kyle1988]

Drinking around 8 to 9 ounce of water in a day has one big benefit i want to share, if you consume direct water from your bottle as we say around 8 to 9 ounce daily, it helps us to eliminate harmful toxins which are generated by our body. But i totally agree with you that our body need fluid around 2 liters per day, but this will not gonna help us from removing the harmful toxin within our body.