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Islander
03-16-09, 02:48 PM
Monday, 16 March 2009

A vegetarian diet may help to protect against cancer, a UK study suggests.
Analysis of data from 52,700 men and women shows that those who did not eat meat had significantly fewer cancers overall than those who did.
But surprisingly, the researchers also found a higher rate of colorectal cancer - a disease linked with eating red meat - among the vegetarians.
Writing in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition the team said the findings were worth looking into.
Although it is widely recommended that people eat five portions of fruit and vegetables a day to reduce their risk of cancer and other diseases, there is very little evidence looking specifically at a vegetarian diet.

In the latest study, researchers looked at men and women aged 20 to 89 recruited in the UK in the 1990s.
They divided participants into meat-eaters, fish-eaters, vegetarians and vegans.
During follow-up there were fewer cancers than would be expected in the general population - probably because they were a healthier than average group of people.
But there was a significantly lower incidence of all cancers among the fish-eaters and vegetarians compared with the meat eaters.
'Confusion'
For colorectal cancer, however that trend was reversed with vegetarians having a significantly higher incidence of the condition than the other groups.
The researchers were surprised at the finding, which contradicts previous evidence linking eating lots of red meat with the disease.
Study leader Professor Tim Key, a Cancer Research UK epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, said no previous study had looked at diet in this way and there had been a lot of confusion about the issue.
"It's interesting - it suggests there might be some reduction in cancers in vegetarians and fish-eaters and we need to look carefully at that."
He added: "It doesn't support the idea that vegetarians would have lower rates of colorectal cancer and I think it means we need to think more carefully about how meat fits into it."
More work is needed to unpick the links between diet and cancer but such studies are incredibly hard to do, he said.
Dr Joanne Lunn, a senior nutrition scientist at the British Nutrition Foundation, said the findings highlight the fact that cancer is a complex disease and many different lifestyle factors play a part in determining a person's risk.
"An interesting observation was that the vegetarians had a higher rate of colorectal cancer than the meat-eaters.
"When you look at the detail of their diets, the meat-eaters, to which the vegetarians in this group were compared, are eating only moderate amounts of meat each day - well within the recommendations.
"Both groups are also just about meeting the recommendation to eat at least 5 portions of fruits and vegetables a day."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7942479.stm

Islander
03-16-09, 02:54 PM
This report is so flawed that it's hard to know where to begin. Think of all the variables. Who took supplements? How many, and what kind? Did the fish eaters eat no red meat? Who exercised, who didn't? What was their exposure to environmental carcinogens? Were fruits and vegetables commercial, i.e. contaminated with pesticides and herbicides, or were they organic? Further, vegetarians and vegans might as a group be assumed to be more health-conscious than the participants at large, which might have some bearing on the outcome. In short, there are far too many variables to be able to draw any meaningful conclusions from this kind of study...unless we know more than what is included in this report.

Grandma
03-18-09, 08:25 PM
This report is so flawed that it's hard to know where to begin. Think of all the variables. Who took supplements? How many, and what kind? Did the fish eaters eat no red meat? Who exercised, who didn't? What was their exposure to environmental carcinogens? Were fruits and vegetables commercial, i.e. contaminated with pesticides and herbicides, or were they organic? Further, vegetarians and vegans might as a group be assumed to be more health-conscious than the participants at large, which might have some bearing on the outcome. In short, there are far too many variables to be able to draw any meaningful conclusions from this kind of study...unless we know more than what is included in this report.

So what advice would you give someone who has colorectal cancer and the doctor can not operate to remove the cancer and it has spread to other organs??
An old friend of ours has colorectal cancer and the doctors say they can not do anything.
Would eating veggies only and taking Vitamin D help or does he just go on a grand vacation and enjoy what time he has? BTW... he was a big steak eater.

Islander
03-18-09, 09:12 PM
Grandma, I'm not a medical professional, and even if I were, once a cancer has spread, the outlook is not good.

If I were in that position, though, I would surely adopt a different lifestyle. I do in fact know several people who have faced a stage 4 cancer and turned it around by a change in diet and lifestyle; they are alive today. Your friend has nothing to lose, so why not try? The first place I would send him to: http://www.nuganics.com.au/2007/07/06/jerry-brunetti-food-as-medicine/
This is a 3-hour video, broken in 2 parts. Jerry Brunetti was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma in 1999 and given 6 months to live. He did not submit to chemotherapy, but rather, developed his own unique dietary approach to enhance his immune system. Jerry shares his personal experiences and provides his recipe for healthy living. This video changed my life, and I subsequently ordered a more professionally produced video he made—but I like the one on line better. Jerry is an inspiration. I hope your friend is willing to give it a trial.

Reesacat
03-18-09, 10:00 PM
Diet is key-avoid any processed food (MSG is cancer fertilizer) and eat only organic.

Bill Henderson talks about different alternative cancer treatments on his website-there are many to look at and the information is reliable:
http://www.beating-cancer-gently.com/index.html

Aaltrude
03-18-09, 10:14 PM
Diet is key-avoid any processed food (MSG is cancer fertilizer) and eat only organic.



Also avoid all sugars and carbohydrates - they create an acid environment in which cancer thrives. Eat foods that create an alkaline environment.

Here is one chart listing acid and alkaline forming foods and a google search should find more.

http://www.essense-of-life.com/moreinfo/foodcharts.htm

DizzyIzzy
03-19-09, 12:00 AM
Get him to a naturopath with experience in treating cancers asap. Diet is so important, but also the mindset - never talk about it as 'my cancer', rather as an old friend who's misguided and needs setting straight. Get him to visualise the cancer cells surrounded by white light, being guided out of the body and neutralised. Come up with a mantra for him to repeat constantly about "I'm getting better every day". With cancer you really need to focus on the entire person, and that includes the mind and spirit as well as the obvious physical stuff.

Is he juicing daily? Eating organic? Getting plenty of fresh water? :)

Aaltrude
03-19-09, 12:19 AM
but also the mindset - never talk about it as 'my cancer', rather as an old friend who's misguided and needs setting straight.


This applies to any condition you might have. To call it "My *******" is to take ownership of it which is the last thing you want to do with a disorder you want to heal.

Grandma
03-19-09, 10:31 PM
This applies to any condition you might have. To call it "My *******" is to take ownership of it which is the last thing you want to do with a disorder you want to heal.

I give up everytime I make a comment (Quick Reply) I get knocked off the site.
Am I too slow with this???
And I said a lot of good things about you all.
Anyway... Thanks for your input... all of you...
I copied all of it and sending it to my friend...
And yes... Islander I know you are not a medical professional but I would take what you and the others say to be the truth, than most doctors.

Reesacat
03-19-09, 10:45 PM
Grandma-the site has been a bit 'moody' the last few days-my server is Yahoo and they are doing some IT overhaul, I think.

I had the same problem a couple of days ago, and then a few hours later no problem.

Hope you are able to comment-we so enjoy having you on the forum:)

Islander
03-20-09, 08:48 AM
What Reesacat said!