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Islander
05-22-09, 07:57 PM
Any ideas as to why the continued fear-mongering? Swine flu is no more likely to mutate than seasonal flu. They all mutate. Do some folks just like to take advantage of the opportunity to twirl in the media spotlight?

Fri May 22, 2009

By Laura MacInnis (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=Laura.MacInnis) and Stephanie Nebehay (http://blogs.reuters.com/search/journalist.php?edition=us&n=Stephanie.Nebehay)
GENEVA (Reuters) - Countries should be ready for more serious H1N1 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu) flu infections and more deaths from the newly discovered virus, World Health Organization chief Margaret Chan said on Friday.
The highly contagious strain must be closely monitored in parts of Asia, Africa and South America where the winter season is beginning in case it mixes with seasonal flu and mutates in "unpredictable ways," Chan told the closing session of her United Nations agency's annual congress.
"In cases where the H1N1 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu) virus is widespread and circulating within the general community, countries must expect to see more cases of severe and fatal infections," she said. "We do not at present expect this to be a sudden and dramatic jump in severe illness and deaths."
In the WHO's latest tally, the strain has infected more than 11,000 people in 42 countries and killed 86.
Chan told the end of the week-long World Health Assembly that poorer countries need to quickly improve their monitoring for the new flu, which has caused mainly mild symptoms in most patients but could become more serious as it spreads.
"This is a subtle, sneaky virus," she said. "We have clues, many clues, but very few firm conclusions."
Another senior WHO official, Keiji Fukuda, later told a news conference the United Nations agency was rethinking its criteria for declaring a full H1N1 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu) pandemic is underway to factor in its severity as well as its geographical spread.
"What we are looking for and what we will be looking for is something, events, which signify a really significant increase in risk of harm to people," said Fukuda, acting WHO assistant director-general.
The WHO's global flu alert is currently at level 5 out of 6, meaning that a pandemic is "imminent."
Officials from the WHO's 193 member states have been pushing this week for an altered definition of a Phase 6 pandemic to reduce the risk of unnecessary public panic.
"The bottom line here is we are trying to walk a very fine line between not raising panic but also not becoming complacent," Fukuda said, adding that criteria would be reviewed now that the assembly had ended.
The WHO's current rulebook requires a full pandemic to be declared once the air-borne virus is spreading in a sustained way in two regions of the world. The H1N1 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu) strain has been most prevalent in North America and has also caused growing pockets of infection in Japan, Spain and Britain.
Chan said there was little real difference between the WHO's current pandemic alert level of 5 and the highest of 6 in terms of preparedness measures taken, and she would consult experts before opting to raise it again.
"The decision to declare an influenza pandemic is a responsibility and a duty that I take very, very seriously," she said. "I will consider all the scientific information available. I will be advised by the emergency committee."
The WHO expects that by the end of May, laboratories will be able to send candidate viruses to drug companies to be tested as vaccine viruses, according to Fukuda.
"We are hopeful that by the end of June, by the beginning of July, this will be the time when commercial companies will be in the position of beginning to, or being able to make H1N1 (http://www.reuters.com/news/globalcoverage/swineflu) vaccine," he said.
While the new flu virus dominated their meeting, officials also passed resolutions on the need to improve treatment of multi-drug-resistant tuberculosis and prepare for a surge in diseases including mosquito-borne malaria due to global warming.
(Additional reporting by Katie Reid, editing by Richard Balmforth)

DizzyIzzy
05-22-09, 08:50 PM
I think the third and fourth lines up are your answer...

VACCINE VACCINE OH HOW WE LOVE YOU
INJECT MY ARM WITH YOUR TOXIC STEW....

mellowsong
05-25-09, 12:06 PM
I am so sick of the hype, but wow, I dare not express these sentiments to anyone but my online friends who are like minded, lol. I made that mistake a couple of times...now I just hush or say I'm not worried. I sent a link to Islander's article out to my general email group...I got a few not so nice responses, lol.

Islander
05-25-09, 01:51 PM
Really! I'm curious as to what constitutes "not so nice." Is everyone so indoctrinated? After all, I quoted the CDC (how can you argue with the CDC?) and Laurie Garrett, the world expert on communicable diseases. Can't get much more authentic that that...

DizzyIzzy
05-26-09, 01:29 AM
Is everyone so indoctrinated?

Yes.

In my experience, anyway.

I've tried telling people to chill - pointed out all the ridiculous hype and what the facts really are, showed them the charts for normal flu, the statistics, the figures... and they tell me I'm a nutty conspiracy theorist and I'll probably die because I don't want the vaccines and will put them all at risk...

It's almost like if the word 'vaccine' is mentioned in the same sentence as 'disease' in the media or pop culture, some kind of switch is triggered in their subconscious that flips on so they roll their sleeves up and start bowing at the altar of the needle. I'm seriously starting to wonder if people aren't literally hypnotised, and that that's what we're having to face... waking people from a trance they don't know they're in.

It's scary.

Reesacat
05-26-09, 12:00 PM
Really! I'm curious as to what constitutes "not so nice." Is everyone so indoctrinated? After all, I quoted the CDC (how can you argue with the CDC?) and Laurie Garrett, the world expert on communicable diseases. Can't get much more authentic that that...

I am finding the same as Dizzy and Mellowsong-people are scared and not thinking things through.

People don't know how to think-add in crap food, drugged to the gills with chemicals in food to prescription drugs, and add the constant noise of a media society that deals in fear-mongering...............

Islander
05-26-09, 04:38 PM
That's discouraging. From the sound of it, no one will have to coerce the population for a vaccine — they'll be begging for it. Erk.

DizzyIzzy
05-26-09, 10:11 PM
That's discouraging. From the sound of it, no one will have to coerce the population for a vaccine — they'll be begging for it. Erk.

Scarily, people I know are...

The usual reactions I'm getting when it's mentioned are either:

"Oink oink, haha... man-flu has evolved at last... I'm not worried, what a load of bull, harhar..." (that's the rare few I could kiss for saying it).

Or more commonly:

"I'm not worried, they'll have a vaccine for it before long, and I've got my flu jab already so it's ok, it doesn't seem any worse than the normal one..."

<facepalm>

mellowsong
05-27-09, 07:41 PM
Really! I'm curious as to what constitutes "not so nice." Is everyone so indoctrinated? After all, I quoted the CDC (how can you argue with the CDC?) and Laurie Garrett, the world expert on communicable diseases. Can't get much more authentic that that...
Islander: Here's one:
Patty, I understand your dedication to going "natural" and you have accomplished a lot but spreading this kind of nonsense and disinformation is dangerous and could be considered treasonous. (Bold mine)

This from a person in her late 60s who works for Dept of Homeland Security as an actor in training scenarios. Also, a few requests to be taken off my email list, and of course, the usual drivel about how vaccines save lives. I had quit sending stuff out except to a select few a long time ago, but felt this needed to go forth. Considering I sent it to probably 90 people and only got about 5 very negative responses and silence from everyone else, I can only hope a few read and digested the material.

Islander
05-28-09, 08:32 AM
Patty, thanks for responding. That is stunning.
The sources I quoted could not be more reliable.
The second largest newspaper in Maine, the one that covers all but the southernmost part of the state, published that as a guest column. I rewrote the first graf to remove the names and the Internet memes. I got no negative feedback...how could I? I didn't print my e-mail address. I'm no fool!