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Reesacat
12-14-09, 01:05 PM
Blood Clot Dangers After Surgery Worse Than Thought
Vitamin A to the rescue!

A new study published in the British Medical Journal has shocked the allopathic community. They are aware of the risk of thrombosis (clotting) post-surgery. It can be dangerous and sometimes proves fatal.

But the scale of the problem is far worse than was thought. It has always been supposed that clotting was less of a risk after so-called keyhole surgery. I thought that too; now it turns out it’s just a phoney supposition, as most “science” is.
The new study, using data on nearly 1 million women in the United Kingdom who were tracked for an average of 6.2 years after surgery, outlines the risk in precise detail; that's a BIG study. It emerged that 1 of every 140 women who had surgery that required a hospital stay was re-admitted for venous thromboembolism within 12 weeks of the operation. The rate was highest for hip or knee replacement surgery at 1 in 45, and was 1 in 85 after cancer surgery.
And the risk of such a blood clot remained high for at least 12 weeks after surgery, the study found.
By contrast, the incidence of venous thrombosis during a 12-week period for women who did not have surgery was one in 6,200.
So they have decided that patients need more “management” post-operatively, to “reduce the risk”. That means giving warfarin (Coumadin), one of the most dangerous drugs in all of medicine (kills more than chemo and is the commonest cause of emergency life-threatening admission to ER)!

If you ever face surgery—and you might, no matter how holistically oriented—don’t let them give you this dangerous drug.
Why don’t they use vitamin K shots, which reduce clotting? Omega-3s dramatically reduce clotting, so take lashings of those.

But also nobody seems to have heard of the idea that vitamin A sufficiency is the answer: it eliminates all pathological clotting tendencies, even though vitamin A is involved in clotting pathways and is used in bleeding disorders, such as acute promyelocytic leukemia!
I clearly remember a study published in the 1980s that showed vitamin A protects against post-operative clotting. It was a vigorously done study, with good results. When I say I remember it clearly, I can’t remember it at all (not to locate it again)! But there are many papers on this topic. Retinoids (derivatives of vitamin A) are known to prevent hypercoagulable states—those where clotting is very likely. For instance this one: Haematologica. 2003 Aug;88(8):895-905 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12935977)
A growing number of in vitro studies have reported desirable effects of retinoids on cell migration, proliferation, apoptosis, matrix remodeling, fibrinolysis, coagulation, and inflammation, all of which impinge on vascular disease.
Vitamin A is an antioxidant that generally helps to protect your cells against damage. It helps cells reproduce normally and is also needed for red blood cell production. Vitamin A deficiency has been found in women with heavy bleeding. One study showed that 92 percent of women prescribed supplemental vitamin A found that their heavy bleeding was either cured or alleviated.

You also need vitamin A to build immunity, restore cell function, prevent aging and to fight cancer. Did you know that vitamin A is now used clinically to treat cancer cases, who have a far higher than normal tendency to clot? Yet the dinosaurs go on saying anti-oxidants kill and retinoids and vitamin E are bad!

[SOURCE: Dec 4, 2009, BMJ online]

Dr. Keith Scott-Mumby
Letter From Serendipity
Total Health Newsletter
December 13, 2009
http://www.letterfromserendipity.com/serendipity30.htm

mellowsong
12-14-09, 05:39 PM
why don’t they use vitamin K shots, which reduce clotting?


WHOA!!! I cannot believe a doctor said Vitamin K reduces clotting!!! The Vitamin K PROMOTES clotting. Coumadin blocks Vitamin K; that's how it works. That's why they give it (don't know if still do) to newborns. Other than that gross error, this is a good article.

On another note, I was unaware that Vitamin A could play a role in reducing clotting. That's great news to me as I have a genetic clotting disorder which I treat with supplements now after 9 years on Coumadin.

Vitamin K1 plays a bigger role in clotting while K2 plays a bigger role in bone metabolism and other metabolic processes. Coumadin doesn't just inhibit K1 which is why after years of use, people will develop osteoporosis.

Islander
12-14-09, 08:19 PM
Huh? They give coumadin to newborns??

Reesacat
12-14-09, 09:56 PM
WHOA!!! I cannot believe a doctor said Vitamin K reduces clotting!!! The Vitamin K given in shots PROMOTES clotting. Coumadin blocks Vitamin K; that's how it works. That's why they give it (don't know if still do) to newborns. Other than that gross error, this is a good article.

On another note, I was unaware that Vitamin A could play a role in reducing clotting. That's great news to me as I have a genetic clotting disorder which I treat with supplements now after 9 years on Coumadin.

Vitamin K1 plays a bigger role in clotting while K2 plays a bigger role in bone metabolism and other metabolic processes. Coumadin doesn't just inhibit K1 which is why after years of use, people will develop osteoporosis.

Man, I missed that-thanks Mellow. The routine treatment for Coumadin overdose/bleeding is Vitamin K.


They don't give coumadin routinely to newborns, but will give Vitamin K shots routinely to prevent some rare bleeding into the brain that occurs 3-7 weeks after birth (incident 5 out of 100,000). Downside is question vitamin K shots at birth might lead to childhood leukemia.

mellowsong
12-14-09, 11:01 PM
Huh? They give coumadin to newborns??
No, lol...poor sentence structure...they give Vitamin K. Sorry bout that.

EmmaPeel
12-15-09, 01:38 PM
I had read that women who have very heavy periods should increase their Vit. K intake...so I ate sauerkraut on everything for a week and wwwwell...........
:eek::eek:

Mellowsong et al...how do you balance the Vit. K intake with the Fish oil intake??

One contraindicates the other! I want to keep the ole valves clean and the joints greased, but I don't want to exacerbate me fibroids....

Oh what we women go through.....:)

mellowsong
12-15-09, 02:23 PM
Mellowsong et al...how do you balance the Vit. K intake with the Fish oil intake??

One contraindicates the other! I want to keep the ole valves clean and the joints greased, but I don't want to exacerbate me fibroids....
Oh what we women go through.....:)

Take Vitamin K2 making sure it has no K1 in it. K2 as I said earlier is more involved in metabolic processes such as bone construction whereas K1 is the one more involved in the clotting cascade. At this time, I'm not supplementing K2 any longer as I drink raw milk kefir which is a very good source of K2. It was recently determined that Weston A. Price's mysterious Factor X is actually K2. Honestly I see no reason to supplement K1 at all.