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Islander
02-02-10, 02:01 PM
Mon, Feb 1 2010
By JoAnne Allen

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Taking ginkgo biloba, St. John's wort and other widely used herbal supplements may be risky for people on heart disease medication, especially the elderly, according to a medical review released on Monday.
Some herbal remedies may increase the potency of prescription drugs for heart disease or make them less effective, a team of experts concluded.
Mixing herbs and drugs also could cause serious heart rhythm problems and bleeding, according to the review published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.
Use of herbal supplements among elderly patients is especially concerning because they typically have more than one disease, take multiple medications and already are at greater risk of bleeding, the report said.
Previous studies have sounded alarms about use of herbal supplements which are not regulated like traditional medicines. This review examined how supplements and cardiovascular drugs may interact.
"We can see the effect of some of these herb-drug interactions -- some of which can be life-threatening -- on tests for blood clotting, liver enzymes and, with some medications, on electrocardiogram," Dr. Arshad Jahangir of the Mayo Clinic in Arizona said in a telephone interview.
Many patients fail to disclose their use of herbal remedies so healthcare providers should be more probing, Jahangir said in a telephone interview.
"We need to be actively ask about alternative or complementary medicine patients may be seeking on their own to assess these potential interactions or side affects," said Jahangir, a cardiologist.
"They don't even consider that herbs could have a negative effect," he said. "Their impression is that 'natural' is safe,"
Jahangir said doctors and patients need to know about the potential harm herbal products can have, citing reports that more than 15 million Americans use herbal remedies.
The Council for Responsible Nutrition, an industry trade association, said the article represents a biased, poorly written and contrived attack on herbal supplements.
"Many herbal supplements offer healthful benefits and fiber, garlic, and Hawthorne provide heart health benefits, and the potential risk for a drug interaction can be eliminated by speaking openly with your doctor," the group's vice president, Douglas MacKay, said in a statement.
"If consumers are buying from reputable companies, they can feel confident in the quality and safety of these products," MacKay added.
Ginkgo biloba is taken to sharpen cognitive skills and St. John's wort is used to fight depression and sleep disorders.
The Nutritional Business Journal, an industry publication, estimates U.S. consumer sales of supplements climbed more than 6 percent in 2008 to reach $25.2 billion.
(Editing by Maggie Fox and Bill Trott)

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Maurya
02-02-10, 05:34 PM
Sounds to me like another good reason to skip the taking of these drugs altogether. If the interaction is causing a problem, why would one think that the drugs are not the substance that should be stopped, rather than stopping the herbs? Could it be that the reason people "fail" to tell their doctor about their herb intake is that they know the doctor will react by telling the person to stop taking their herbs? Could it be that people are not quite as stupid as they frequently are thought to be?

Islander
02-02-10, 06:36 PM
There is indeed an interaction between coumadin and garlic & ginkgo, all of which act as blood thinners. I'd advise getting off the rat poison as the first step! It is important, however, to let your medical team know prior to surgery what supplements you're taking. Excessive bleeding could be an unwanted adverse side effect!

Reesacat
02-02-10, 08:14 PM
I have also seen a reaction between ginko and aspirin-the was some blood in the urine of family member of unkown cause after extensive work-up.
Doctor told him to stop ginko, keep taking the asprin and the blood in the urine went away.

Herbs do change your biochemical make-up.
Herbs were the first drugs-so do use quality products and check for any herb-drug interactions before mixing with OTC or prescription drugs.

Islander
02-02-10, 10:11 PM
AND...if you grow your own, please be aware that strength of herbal preparations varies with stage of growth, soil fertility, time of harvest, post-harvest treatment and a cluster of other factors. Simply because you grew them (or wild-harvested them) does not make them safe. In the wrong strength or applied in the wrong way, some (like Monkshood [Aconitum] or Foxglove [Digitalis]) can kill.

EmmaPeel
02-03-10, 02:10 PM
AND...if you grow your own, please be aware that strength of herbal preparations varies with stage of growth, soil fertility, time of harvest, post-harvest treatment and a cluster of other factors. Simply because you grew them (or wild-harvested them) does not make them safe. In the wrong strength or applied in the wrong way, some (like Monkshood [Aconitum] or Foxglove [Digitalis]) can kill.

So very true Islander. Same goes for essential oils. Many people think "its just oil, it can't hurt me"...but it can. Essential oils in the wrong strengths, used for the wrong purpose, and on the wrong subject (pet, child, etc) can be dangerous, if not fatal.