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Islander
10-08-10, 07:04 PM
By Dr. Allan Spreen (http://www.healthiertalk.com/users/aspreen) on 10/06/2010

Brain atrophy -- or brain shrinkage -- is very common in adults over the age of 60. It occurs when neurons in your brain die or lose their connection to other neurons. The average brain shrinks at a rate of .5 percent a year once you hit 60. And some of this "shrinkage" explains why you may not feel as sharp as you did when you were 20.

For some, brain atrophy occurs at an accelerated pace. We call this "mild cognitive impairment" and it describes they type of memory loss that goes beyond the "normal" aging brain. People with this kind of mild cognitive impairment lose brain mass at a rate of 1 percent a year. And those with Alzheimer's disease experience a loss rate of 2.5 percent per year.
For many decades, nutritionists have talked about one factor that plays a role in how quickly your brain shrinks: Your homocysteine level.
Homocysteine is an amino acid implicated for its role in many different diseases, especially heart disease. It's also a major risk factor in whether or not you develop dementia and Alzheimer's. Basically, the more homocysteine in your blood, the higher your risk of experiencing serious cognitive decline.
But, here's the good news...

One vitamin significantly lowers your homocysteine levels
It's well-documented that members of the vitamin B-complex family can significantly lower homocysteine levels. In fact, recent studies show that taking vitamin B every day can lower your homocysteine by 25 to 50 percent.
And scientists from the University of Oxford recently took this premise one step further. Since we know that vitamin B decreases homocysteine, can we assume that it also slows brain shrinkage? And even more importantly, can it work for men and women who already show signs of memory loss?
To answer these questions, the Oxford scientists recruited 271 healthy men and women over the age of 70 with mild cognitive impairment. The participants all scored below average on tests that assessed word recall and fluency. In addition, they all expressed concern over memory loss but had not been formally diagnosed with dementia. Next, each of the participants were given MRI scans to determine the amount of atrophy in their brain.
In the next step the scientists divided the volunteers into two groups. One group took vitamin B supplements each day for two years. The tablets contained three components of the B family of vitamins: .8 mg of folic acid, .5 mg of B12, and 20 mg of B6. The other group received a placebo for two years; and to keep things honest, the participants weren't told whether they received the real vitamin or the placebo.

Vitamin B group shows major improvements
After two years, the participants got another set of MRIs and another round of blood work. The scientists then analyzed the data and here's what they found:
1. The vitamin B group lowered their homocysteine levels by an average of 23 percent.
2. Homocysteine levels of the placebo group increased by 8 percent.
3. Overall, the vitamin B group experienced 30 percent less brain shrinkage compared to the placebo group.
4. Lastly, people with the most homocysteine at the outset of the study benefited the most. They experienced 50 percent less brain shrinkage compared to the placebo group.
According to Professor David Smith and lead scientist from the Oxford team, "We have shown that treatment for two years with B vitamins markedly slows the accelerated rate of atrophy in people with mild cognitive impairment."
He went on to say, "It's a bigger effect than anyone could have predicted and it's telling us something biological. These vitamins are doing something to the brain structure – they're protecting it, and that's very important because we need to protect the brain to prevent Alzheimer's."
Gee, I couldn't have said it better myself!

Get on the vitamin B bandwagon!
There are lots of things you can do to protect your brain against shrinkage. First off, make sure you're taking a quality multivitamin. It should contain at least 25 mg of B6.
Next, think about adding .8 mg folic acid and .5 mg B12 into your regimen.
You'll need to take them separately to get to the dosage used in the study. Folic acid is easy to find. And B12 isn't too bad either, really. You'll just need to take the sub-lingual form. This means it comes as a liquid and you use a dropper to place it under your tongue. There's also a dissolvable, under-the-tongue pill form that's popular.
And lastly, for anyone really concerned about Alzheimer's disease, I recommend looking back at my 2008 article (http://www.northstarnutritionals.com/article_list.php?docs_id=65) about this preventable epidemic.

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LabDoc
10-09-10, 11:42 AM
Did my PhD. relating to Vit B12 and would have to agree with all of the above. Would have to add as a side, anyone taking serious medication, chemo and such, or if you like a little or not so little tipple, B12 supplements do wonders for your liver.
Islander, my primary protection against brain shrinkage is to make sure your bike helmet is not too small!

Reesacat
10-09-10, 11:45 AM
Did my PhD. relating to Vit B12 and would have to agree with all of the above. Would have to add as a side, anyone taking serious medication, chemo and such, or if you like a little or not so little tipple, B12 supplements do wonders for your liver.
Islander, my primary protection against brain shrinkage is to make sure your bike helmet is not too small!

LabDoc, which form of B12 do you recommend? I have seen pros and cons for cyanocobalamin, methlycobalamin, etc.

Samurai
10-09-10, 11:49 AM
It was Mellow who told me to stay away from cyanocobalomin... she was right. Everytime I had it, my insomnia was out of this world.

LabDoc
10-09-10, 12:04 PM
Cyanocobalamin is the active and most absorbale form. It is best absorbed by intra muscular injection. Orally I would take a VERY low dose and not too often as this is a known side effect. Can cause the runs as well.

Reesacat
10-09-10, 12:09 PM
Cyanocobalamin is the active and most absorbale form. It is best absorbed by intra muscular injection. Orally I would take a VERY low dose and not too often as this is a known side effect. Can cause the runs as well.

Thank you:)

Aaltrude
10-09-10, 12:22 PM
LabDoc - Dr Martin Pall is a Biochemist who has been researching the cause of CIFDS, FM, MCS, PTSD, GWS and other related disorders. He has found the probable cause in an upregulation of the NO/ONOO- cycle.
More info here http://thetenthparadigm.org/index.html

He recommends frequent doses of injectable hydroxycobalamin for these disorders (as one part of a protocol) to help down regulate the NO/ONOO- cycle.
I have only done very basic Biochemistry and many years ago but I understood that if you take B12 in the cyanocobalamin form, it is not able to cross the blood brain barrier whereas methylcobalamin can.

Islander
10-09-10, 03:14 PM
Not to be oppositional or anything, but I remember PparGammagirl, who was well-versed in this sort of thing, making the same point pro methylcobalamin ...I think saying that cyanocobalamin was an ineffective analog. Yet it must have value as that's the one mercola carries. Let me do a search, maybe I can find it. Stand by!

ETA: Here's all I could find...not much.
http://www.hawkeshealth.net/community/showthread.php?t=1152&highlight=cyanocobalamin
http://www.hawkeshealth.net/community/showthread.php?t=1212&highlight=cyanocobalamin

She gave a long, detailed explanation of all the B cobalamins. Alas, recently we were close to maxing out on our disk space and I did some pruning of old and/or repetitious articles. I would have left such a timeless article untouched, but unfortunately her comments were in the middle of the thread and poof! I'm afraid they're gone. I'd really like some clarification. I take the 5 mg methyl form sub-L. Not daily, but when I think of it, which is several times a week. Now my hope is not to outgrow my bike helmet!

mellowsong
10-09-10, 08:29 PM
Forms of B12:
Cyancobalamin: Most common and is cobalamin bound to cyanide. In most people this is not a problem but in a very few, there is a defect in the body's ability to break it down and it can build to toxic levels. This form also cannot cross the blood brain barrier. When B12 deficiency is severe and causing neurological effects, a form able to cross the blood brain barrier must be used if there is any hope of reversing the symptoms. Just as an aside...it is my understanding that the US is the only country predominantly using cyancobalamin. Most others use hydroxycobalamin both orally and injectable.

Methylcobalamin: This form can cross the blood brain barrier and is generally safe and non-toxic. However, in people with defects in methylation, it can cause problems. I don't believe there is a commercially available injectable form of methylcobalamin. It is a co-enzyme of cobalamin.

Hydroxycobalamin: A naturally occurring form of B12 and also can cross the blood brain barrier but it takes much more than methylcobalamin. This is the form most countries outside of the US use for injections.

Adenosylcobalamin or dibencozide: Another co-enzymated form which can corss the blood brain barrier.

Taking folic acid supplements can mask a B12 deficiency on a CBC so it is essential to get serum folate and B12 measured. I do not know about other countries, but in the US, again, the normal range is set too low, both bottom and top. From my understanding, you should strive for B12 levels of at least 900.

Islander
10-09-10, 08:58 PM
Thanks, Mellow. I just made sure that would come up in a site search. It will.

Aaltrude
10-09-10, 09:55 PM
in the US, again, the normal range is set too low, both bottom and top. From my understanding, you should strive for B12 levels of at least 900.

The normal range is set too low due to the normal ranges being worked out on a deficient population. As I have mentioned in another post recently, lab normal ranges are a mathematecal caculation based on results obtained from a supposedly "normal" population. They are not based on clinical observations. I agree that B12 normal ranges are too low. At one time when I was having symptoms of an intolerance to sulphites, which was due to a low B12, the symptoms did not disappear until my B12 was over 400 (normal range 150 to 800). My B12 at the time I noticed the symptoms was 250.

LabDoc
10-10-10, 08:31 AM
Perhaps we shouldn't get too bogged down in B12, all the various forms are designed to make B12 available to different cells and tissues. Fortunately these days neurological deficit from B12 deficiency is relatively rare. A CBC (or FBE in UK, Oz and NZ) is very unreliable for detecting either B12 or Folate deficiency. Serum B12 is highly diagnostic, and almost universally Red Cell Folate is what should be measured as this indicates how much has been absorbed and is able to be utilized by the red cells.

Islander
10-10-10, 09:52 AM
Perhaps we shouldn't get too bogged down in B12, all the various forms are designed to make B12 available to different cells and tissues. Fortunately these days neurological deficit from B12 deficiency is relatively rare. A CBC (or FBE in UK, Oz and NZ) is very unreliable for detecting either B12 or Folate deficiency. Serum B12 is highly diagnostic, and almost universally Red Cell Folate is what should be measured as this indicates how much has been absorbed and is able to be utilized by the red cells.

It's great to have another medical professional here!

Maurya
10-10-10, 02:12 PM
Another clue from my personal observation: While I was trying to figure out the source of my own personal insomnia, I had experimented with taking or discontinuing vitamin D. Particularly over the summer months, I found that the sunshine might be sufficient for me.

What I had failed to observe, however, was that other uncontrolled variables might be at work here. I had hastily bought a sub-lingual B12 supplement, in the cyano form by mistake. (Previously I had read that the methyl form was superior, in some newsletter from probably Dr Wright or Dr Whitaker. As I am not at home just now, I would be unable to confirm the source for this.) So thinking that I would not waste the B12 supplement, I continued to take one of these almost daily, over the same period of time as experiencing the insomnia.

Now that the opportunity for sunshine exposure on the skin is gone in this part of the world for the next few months, I have resumed taking the vitamin D3. Perhaps shifting over to the methylcobalamin would help me to straighten things out.

Now for the jet lag... ;)

Aaltrude
10-10-10, 03:33 PM
A CBC (or FBE in UK, Oz and NZ) is very unreliable for detecting either B12 or Folate deficiency. Serum B12 is highly diagnostic, and almost universally Red Cell Folate is what should be measured as this indicates how much has been absorbed and is able to be utilized by the red cells.

LabDoc - I have seen both CBC and FBE used in NZ but in both cases they only refer to Hb, PCV, MCV, MCHC etc and WBC. B12 and folate have to be ordered separately. The lab where I was working discontinued Red Cell Folate in favour of Serum Folate due to cost.

LabDoc
10-10-10, 07:23 PM
Aaltrude, yes the famous cost versus correctness debate! How did we ever let the bean counters and managerial types proliferate so?