Comments on the story that Virginia is set to ban the HPV vaccine

[Jane Chitty]

I found these two comments following this story and wondered what some of you thought about them?


Laraine Abbey

The irony of human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccines Gardasil and Cervarix, is that a nutrient–– folic acid–– destroys the human papilloma virus. I read about the folic acid/HPV connection many years back, so when three women showed up in my orthomolecular nutrition practice positive for HPV with dysplasia (abnormal cells that are pre-cancerous), I knew just what to do.

These ladies were being repeatedly cut for cone biopsies (a technique for doing cervical biopsies) and facing fearful futures.

I recommended that each woman request their physician to prescribe the mega-dose treatment with the b-vitamin folic acid 20 milligrams (NOT micrograms) twice daily, which was then prepared by a compounding pharmacy. One lady had to seek out a new doctor to acquire the prescription. The mega-dose folic acid was taken in concert with my nutritional program which included a comprehensive high potency vitamin-mineral supplement. The ladies were followed by me and their physicians for three months and beyond. To their, and my, delight, at the end of the three months the previously abnormal PAP smears in all three
women were completely normal! All were followed for many years and continued to have normal PAP tests.

This took place in the days before folic acid fortification of food to prevent spina-bifida (a congenital birth defect in which the brain & spinal cord is not properly formed due to a deficiency of folic acid and/or disorder of folic acid metabolism).

Now that we fortify foods with the vitamin folic acid, I would bet that in the future there will be far fewer cases of HPV and thus fewer cases of resulting cervical cancer. Sadly, vaccinologists will probably credit Gardasi and Cervarix with the reduction of cervical cancer cases, which I believe will have been another great result of a nutrition intervention.


Catherine J Frompovich

When I was in practice as a consulting natural nutritionist I, too, had many women whose physicians sent them to me with #4 dysplasia confirmations only to find within 6 months of corrected dietary regime and nutritional supplementation as you mentioned above, cone biopsies came back negative or at the most #1 dysplasia, which was further reduced after a few more months on the holistic program they maintained.

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[Islander]

Well this baffles me. I'm 100% sure I posted the original story on Virginia banning the vaccine but nowhere can I find it.
Oh, wait. I shared it on FB. I never posted it here. To to give background to Jane's post, here it is:

Repeal HPV Vaccine for Girls—Not a Dream: Commonwealth of Virginia House of Delegates Passed Such a Bill
By Catherine J. Frompovich | January 28th, 2012
http://networkedblogs.com/tvBHX

[Islander]

Back to the cdomments. I tried to check profiles but the site yielded no profile information, so we have to take Laraine Abbey's word for who she is. The notion that cancer is the result of a nutrient deficiency is not surprising in light of the fact that mega IV doses of vitamin C seem to "cure" it...and that cancer has a history of being treated successfully with nutrition therapy. I wouild, of course, like to know that Laraine Abbey is not the only person on the planet who has discovered the folic acid connection.

BTW, I thought TX was the only state mandating the vaccine. Evidently there are others. Sobering thought, that an unproven and high-risk procedure could be forced on the unwilling.

[mellowsong]

I thought TX was the only state mandating the vaccine. Evidently there are others. Sobering thought, that an unproven and high-risk procedure could be forced on the unwilling.

At least 20 states have enacted legislation, including Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Washington. http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/...-statutes.aspx

California recently went even further. They are now allowing 12 year olds to agree to the vaccine WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT!!! There is already a lawsuit pending because a child was coerced into accepting the vaccination.

[mellowsong]

As to the comments; it appears accurate. I found this: In conclusion, our findings suggest that improving folate status in subjects at risk of getting infected or infected with high-risk HPV may reduce the risk of cervical cancer. To our knowledge, this is the first long-term prospective follow-up study reporting independent associations between folate and several aspects of the natural history of high-risk HPV. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...4/23/8788.full

One thing is that the comments say folic acid. A much better supplement is methyl-folate which is the natural form. Some people have a genetic condition preventing the body from utilizing folate/folic acid and they need prescription treatment with either intramuscular or very high dose oral folinic acid.

[Islander]

MAINE? I need to check this out!

But according to the above, CA is not mandating the vaccine.

Surely one can opt out, as with other vaccines?

[Samurai]

BTW, I thought TX was the only state mandating the vaccine. Evidently there are others. Sobering thought, that an unproven and high-risk procedure could be forced on the unwilling.

Not true, muh love. It is "recommended". That went out with the... er... uh.... idea of the dep't of energy.

[Katee]

But according to the above, CA is not mandating the vaccine.

Surely one can opt out, as with other vaccines?

This is true. However, the schools now can "educate" the children to the "importance" of this vaccine (possibly even implying that parents are over-protective/uneducated/behind the times) and coerce the children into getting this vaccine. In some ways, this reminds me of Nazi propaganda as the schools taught the children that their parents just were not educated to the new ways and backward and encouraged the children to report on the parents, too.

Of course, a huge problem here is the parents still have to assume responsibility for the child and cover the costs if that child is injured by the vaccines. If i had children in public schools here, i would be doing one heck of an education for them at home so that they would know to say no to the jab.

My husband's SIL is somewhat open to alternative health, but she chose to get this shot series for her daughter. She said that she herself had had cervical cancer and that cancer treatment "saved her life" and she wants to do all she can to help her daughter avoid cancer. So she believed the propaganda.

I am so entirely needle-phobic, that i know i would not ever, ever have volunteered for a shot and nothing the school said to me would have changed that. But apparently not all children have this phobia.

[mellowsong]

No, it is not mandated yet in CA and Perry's mandate was overturned in Texas by the legislature. So, what I posted not completely accurate. States have various policies regarding opting out of mandated vaccines. Some are extremely strict, only allowing religious exemption with proof of belonging to certain faiths, others allow philosophical reasons for exemption. Some states are more lenient on religious exemptions allowing use of reasoning such as the Bible forbidding putting foreign things in your body. (I don't know the direct quote, I do know a person who used something like this to exempt her children). Of course, every state has to allow medical exemptions. This site will tell you state by state if you can and how to opt out: http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/sta...uirements.aspx

[Maurya]

One thing is that the comments say folic acid. A much better supplement is methyl-folate which is the natural form. Some people have a genetic condition preventing the body from utilizing folate/folic acid and they need prescription treatment with either intramuscular or very high dose oral folinic acid.

Thank you for pointing out this important point. Folic acid is not the same thing as folate. I have read estimates of anywhere from one third to one half of the population having the genetic defect that inhibits or in some cases prevents the conversion of folic acid to the useable L-5-MTHF form of folate. I find it appalling that these two terms so frequently are used interchangeably by "health experts" who should know better.

Even for those who do not possess the MTHFR genetic defect, an imperfectly functioning digestive system can mandate the correct form of folate supplementation.