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09-17-18, 11:01 PM
Sayer Ji
September 17 2018

Bayer’s headaches don’t stop with Monsanto-related buyer’s remorse (http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/bayer-needs-more-aspirin-cure-its-monsanto-sized-headache). Their most iconic pharmaceutical -- aspirin -- which they once marketed as a 'wonder drug' is now being revealed to have no benefits to older adults, and may even cause significant harm

I’ve been writing about the underreported dangers and overstated health benefits of aspirin for some years now. Sometimes it feels like swimming upstream, given how often mainstream reporting and thinking associates so-called "low-dose" aspirin usage with some kind of ‘wonder drug’ for the prevention of cardiovascular disease. But the truth is now catching up to this marketing hype, as evidenced by this recent ABC news headline: “Daily aspirin may be harmful for healthy, older adults, large study finds (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heart-health/daily-aspirin-may-be-harmful-healthy-older-adults-large-study-n909791).”

Read more: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/aspirin-has-no-benefit-may-increase-cancer-mortality-nejm-study-reveals

Mr. Wizard
09-18-18, 02:51 PM
Bayer first marketed aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) in 1899 to docs & hospitals. By 1915, it was available as an OTC drug. So, it took 120 yrs. to determine this drug has no benefits for older adults. This would be laughable, if not so shameful because it was targeted at adults after it was discovered that aspirin was connected with Reyes syndrome in chidren, a sometimes fatal condition. As an alternative, the article cites pycnogenol from the bark of a pine tree as being superior to aspirin for heart conditions. Pycnogenol benefits more than just the heart. It's a panacea, benefiting the heart, blood vessels, kidneys, skin, etc. etc. Of note, studies have shown it to be most beneficial for increasing blood flow to the kidneys and reducing complications associated with diabetes.

09-18-18, 07:59 PM
So, it took 120 yrs. to determine this drug has no benefits for older adults

No benefit to the heart, but wasn't it mainly used for pain relief? I don't think Pycnogenol helps with that. And in my experience, neither does white willow bark, from which aspirin was originally derived. Didn't help with pain at all - maybe a higher dose is needed?

09-18-18, 08:45 PM
Aspirin never did anything to relieve pain for me, not even when I was chewing a dozen at a time to dull the killer headaches.

Mr. Wizard
09-19-18, 12:52 PM
@Julieanne: You are correct. Originally, aspirin was marketed primarily for pain relief. But, in the 1970s about the same time Bayer released it "low-dose" aspirin (81 mg.), it began a huge "heart health" campaign. So, they've had almost 50 yrs. to determine that their aspirin did not benefit heart health in older adults. As for pycnogenol and pain, pycnogenol reduces inflammation by inhibiting COX 2. This makes it an excellent pain reliever. There are a plethora of studies showing that pycnogenol reduces pain. Here's one abstract from NIH study:
Here's another one: https://www.nutraingredients.com/Article/2009/07/21/Study-pinpoints-Pycnogenol-s-pain-relieving-potential

09-19-18, 10:42 PM
Thanks Mr Wiz, I'll give it a try. It can't hurt!

Edit: or maybe not! Yikes! Cheapest I could see on iherb was 60 capsules, 100mg for $54.44 AU.

Mr. Wizard
09-20-18, 06:45 PM
Personally, I could never take 100 mg. of any botanical. Here's a "Nature's Way" pycnogenol @ 50 mg., 30 tablets for $14.95. This website includes at least a half dozen more pycnogenol products at different strengths and quantities.

09-20-18, 07:58 PM
The second study you posted used 150 ml to relieve pain, so I would tend to go with that if I ever tried it. I mention iherb because they offer free shipping to my country, which no other US company does. Shipping costs can add a lot to the order.

Mr. Wizard
09-20-18, 08:18 PM
I forgot about shipping. Regarding pain, these studies fail to account for all the other substances we take that work on pain. For example, if I'm consuming turmeric/curcumin, garlic, boswellia (frankincense), and/or large amounts of vit. C, in my daily diet, and then I add pycnogenol for pain, I may need less pycnogenol than used in the study because the synergy of all these other substances also reduce pain.

09-21-18, 05:32 AM
Good point! Thanks Mr Wiz.