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mellowsong
06-17-11, 09:02 AM
It is a baby step, goes about it in a roundabout way and still has to be passed by the senate. Unfortunately the measure is attached to a very large bill and doesn't actually ban GMO Salmon.

by Helena Bottemiller | Jun 16, 2011

The House of Representatives continued debate yesterday on an agriculture appropriations bill that affects key food safety programs. The bill still contains significant cuts to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service, but has yet to be adopted by the lower chamber.

Lawmakers spent the better part of Tuesday and Wednesday debating a series of amendments affecting a wide variety of programs--from federal nutrition to conservation to food safety.

Late Wednesday, the House approved an amendment by Congressman Don Young (R-AK) that would bar the FDA from spending money to approve an application for controversial genetically-engineered (GE) salmon. [emphasis mine] If the agency were to approve the GE fish--which grow rapidly, reducing cost of production--it would be the first GE animal approved for human consumption.

Read more: http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/06/post-2/ (http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/06/post-2/)

mellowsong
06-17-11, 09:04 AM
There was a discussion not long ago about how Google censors search results. Trying to find a different source for this information than NN, a Google search did not produce a single article by an US source! I had to go to a different search engine to find anything not from the UK. That is scary!!!

Reesacat
06-17-11, 10:28 AM
It's a start!

Islander
06-17-11, 10:56 AM
Since this is going to the Senate next, I'd suggest getting the exact name of the bill and then contacting your state's senators. If someone does the research before I can get to it, please post the bill's number in this thread.


A gene that makes the fish grow faster. In the midst of an obesity epidemic, this may be something we really need. :sarcasm:


ETA: The one comment to date on the above article advocates the banning of all organic food, on the basis that the German E. coli outbreak was thought to occur in organic food. :eek:

Islander
06-17-11, 11:33 AM
There was a discussion not long ago about how Google censors search results. Trying to find a different source for this information than NN, a Google search did not produce a single article by an US source! I had to go to a different search engine to find anything not from the UK. That is scary!!!
Mellow, Google doesn't actually censor results, rather it returns results to you, personally, based on your previous searches. A lot also depends on how you pose the question.

To begin with, Mike Adams' headline is totally misleading. He says, "U.S. congress passes law to halt FDA approval of GM salmon." First, Congress did nothing. The bill is still in the House. Second, nothing was passed; an amendment was added, that was all. And finally, the whole thing failed to reduce farm subsidies. This is why I don't trust Adams. Here's the actual story: http://tinyurl.com/5u4xvow

I wonder what search terms you used, Mellow. I asked for "us house farm spending bill" and got 13 pages on the story before I stopped looking, because I hadn't been specific enough. I ran a new search with "us house farm spending bill aquabounty" and got an immediate hit: http://tinyurl.com/65sasnq. From there I was referred to an AP story. http://tinyurl.com/42ew4pd.No shortage of news out there; you just have to phrase the right question.

Still looking for the actual farm bill number....

Islander
06-17-11, 11:40 AM
HERE IT IS! HR 2122.

Now I'm going to go do something productive, like make lunch.

Aaltrude
06-17-11, 01:00 PM
ETA: The one comment to date on the above article advocates the banning of all organic food, on the basis that the German E. coli outbreak was thought to occur in organic food. :eek:
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Although I am not suggestiong this is this case, there is always the possibility the E coli was a plant with this very purpose in my mind. I can understand how contamination may have occurred in the first place but it raises my suspicions when the contamination is such a virilent strain which is not particularly ubiquitous.

Islander
06-17-11, 01:10 PM
I thought Jon Barron explained this very reasonably. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.

mellowsong
06-17-11, 02:15 PM
"U.S. congress passes law to halt FDA approval of GM salmon."First, Congress did nothing. The bill is still in the House. Second, nothing was passed; an amendment was added, that was all. And finally, the whole thing failed to reduce farm subsidies. This is why I don't trust Adams. Here's the actual story: http://tinyurl.com/5u4xvow

I realize that...that's why I went to a site outside NN to find the facts and why I put a ? in the title.
BUT I just found this update: It DID pass congress with the below amendment still attached:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/npr.php?id=137226525

As to Google, I used to be a search wizard, finding stuff nobody else could but lately having a hard time. Whatever Google is doing, I'm not getting the results I used to. I was using terms like: "Congress and GMO salmon)...I didn't look for the bill...duh...brain fog :)

Islander
06-17-11, 03:20 PM
Mellow, I wasn't criticizing your post. I was trying to point out the unreliability of NN. Newcomers here may have taken that at face value when in fact he's up to his usual shenanigans.

Whoa! SO glad to hear it passed! But remember the wording: FDA cannot spend money to ban it. Devil is in the details....

Katee
06-18-11, 12:56 AM
I thought Jon Barron explained this very reasonably. When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
I understand this. But i will say with the big food companies doing anything they can to try to keep their monopoly (and people in the dark about GMOs and pesticides) there might be intent behind some of the poisonings we have seen. If they get people afraid enough of "organics" and convince them such things are dangerous, they divert from the fact that untold thousands are sick of chronic illnesses which ultimately kill them.

I don't see conspiracies around very corner but it wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the outbreaks have been staged/the organic folks been sabotaged.