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    Default Will Israel’s new water technology yield gains in the arid Middle East?

    Martin Fletcher, PBS News Hour
    April 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM EDT

    Over the past few years in Israel, the country's water shortage has become a surplus. Through a combination of conservation, reuse and desalination, the country now has more water than it needs. And that could translate to progress for the country in the Middle East, one of the most water-stressed regions in the world. NewsHour's Martin Fletcher reports.

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    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/israel-desalination/
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    This looks like something drought stricken California needs to be looking into, on a far larger scale then the few desalinization plants they already have.
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    Agree. California could learn a lot about water from Middle Eastern countries. In addition to Israel, Saudi Arabia has also been successful in solving its water problem via desalinization plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wizard View Post
    Agree. California could learn a lot about water from Middle Eastern countries. In addition to Israel, Saudi Arabia has also been successful in solving its water problem via desalinization plants.
    Both Saudi Arabia and California have, at one time or another, dabbled with the idea of towing icebergs to their seaports for fresh water recovery.
    http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/_news...t-how-feasible

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    What a novel idea. I never really thought about using icebergs for fresh water. Thanks for sharing the article.

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    We went through this discussion in hot, dry Western Australia some time ago, including the idea of towing icebergs. We now have two desalination plants and possibly more to come.

    But they come at a cost, needing a lot of energy to run, and adding huge amounts of salt back into the sea. We have no idea of the effect this might have on the ocean in the long term.

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    All good points, Julieanne. I remember when they were having discussions in California about towing down Alaskan icebergs. At the time there was great demand from the elite for water that had frozen perhaps 10,000 years ago and was thus more pristine than anything available today. IIRC nothing came of that.
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    [QUOTE=Julieanne;....."....., and adding huge amounts of salt back into the sea."[/QUOTE]

    According to the Salt Institute (Yes, there is such a thing. Lol), 12 eastern U.S. states spent over $500 Million on salt for snow covered roads last winter. Combined, U.S. states spent $2.3 billion in snow removal from roads last year. Perhaps the salt generated as a by-product from desalination plants could be used for winter roads, instead of dumping it in the sea. It seems to me this would be a much cheaper alternative than some of the salt plants being built by states. See the Salt Institute's report here:
    http://www.safewinterroads.org/wp-co...nvironment.pdf

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    Good idea Mr Wizard. That might work for the US, where you have snow in winter, but we have no real use for it here. Seems there are no easy answers.

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    We'll take it, thank you very much!
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    This curious mental picture arises in my mind; a freighter full of salt from the brine generated by desalinization plants in Oz being shipped over to the US for use on their roads in winter time. Curiouser and curiouser!

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    That is a great idea Mr. Wizard!

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    Back in Aug., 1989, I was traveling south on the interstate highway to San Isidro, Ca., south of San Diego, and saw the massive sea water evaporation ponds from my vehicle while driving by. My understanding is that salt water is captured at high tide into ponds, and then is allowed to be evaporated by the sun leaving behind pure salt to be gathered. According to this website, this operation is over 100 years old; http://www.sandiegotraveltips.com/pu...Salt_Works.cfm

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    Default Re: Will Israel’s new water technology yield gains in the arid Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julieanne View Post
    Good idea Mr Wizard. That might work for the US, where you have snow in winter, but we have no real use for it here. Seems there are no easy answers.
    What Islander and Maurya said. :-)

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