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    Default Protein Mania: The Rich World's New Diet Obsession

    Bee Wilson
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    Why we can’t get enough when we already eat too much

    Are you getting enough protein? The question provides its own answer: if you are worrying about the amount of protein in your diet, then you are almost certainly eating more than enough. This is the paradox of our new protein obsession. For many people, protein has become a kind of secular unction: it instantly anoints any food with an aura of health and goodness. On the menu at the gym where I go, a salad niçoise is now repackaged as “high-protein tuna”. It comes without the usual capers or olives – those are items that merely add flavour, and who needs that?

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    Protein is expensive, and I can't think of anyone other than bodybuilders who need extra.
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    Default Re: Protein Mania: The Rich World's New Diet Obsession

    And pregnant and nursing mothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Islander View Post
    Protein is expensive, and I can't think of anyone other than bodybuilders who need extra.
    It's expensive in the form of meat, but dried beans, lentils etc are cheap!

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    I made chickpea soup today, using chicken/vegetable broth that I had leftover as part of the liquid. Delicious! Maybe not too smart, though: Last Thursday was Rio's hottest day since 2015, at 106 degrees F.

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    I have never been anywhere in my life where the temperature at the time was over 100 F unless it was in Shanghai, but the humidity felt like 99% so it was utter misery anyway.
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    For vegans, vegetarians, and those trying to reduce their consumption of animal protein and eat more plant-based protein, it's important to note that not all plant protein is created equal. Plants differ in their amino acid makeup, containing less or more of the 9 essential amino acids that make it "complete" protein. However, by combining certain plant-based proteins, one can enhance the quality of the protein. For example, grains and cereals are low in lysine, but dry beans, lentils and other legumes are high in lysine. On the flip side, legumes are not a good source of the essential amino acids, like tryptophan and methionine, but grains and cereals are. So, if grains and legumes (beans & rice, for example) are combined in the same meal, the protein becomes "complete," containing all 9 essential amino acids needed by the body.

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    The same is true of corn and beans, which is why Mexicans thrive on their native cuisine.
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    I read somewhere, possibly here, that it wasn't strictly necessary to eat them at the same time, as long as you got enough of both.

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    I've heard that too. But how far apart? The same day? 24 hours? More? Des anyone know?
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    @Islander: You're correct. Any grains: (rice, corn, wheat, barley, etc.)--combined with Legumes: (peas, beans, lentils) will produce "complete or complementary" proteins.

    @Julieanne: You're correct about not needing to eat these plant proteins at the same time. However, the big caveat is the diet must be highly varied and complementing plant proteins should be eaten daily, but not necessarily in the same meal. Early advocates of "combining complementary proteins" (like Ad
    elle Davis in her book, Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit. and Frances Moore Lappé in Diet for a Small Planet) backed away from this approach starting in the late 80's when veganism & vegetarianism became more popular and folks determined there was money to be made. Long story short, the caveat is this: too little of one amino acid limits the use of other amino acids. Personally, if plant protein was my primary source of protein, I would combine complementary proteins in the same meal.


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